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Leading teams without micromanaging | COAR S3E7 Clip
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Leading Teams Of 30 To 80
SPEAKER_01And you're running um a team of about forty or so right now? Yeah, in the 30s, I think. And in the past, it was it up to eighty, I think, at one point.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So when I was in my last job at Expand, um I was in a it was uh I was managing across um Australia and uh Singapore, Hong Kong. So there's about eighty all up.
SPEAKER_01As I say, it's a a lot of people, and and I'm assuming you've got to have to have a very strong leadership team to keep that going.
Staying Close To Clients
SPEAKER_01In those roles, how close do you stay to clients?
SPEAKER_00I mean for me it's it's it's that senior point of escalation. Um so you're there to to maintain those senior uh relationships at the top of the organization, and then you're in trusting the rest of the team to manage the the mid to senior level. Uh but yeah, I I would always work at the exec level, I guess, to to maintain those relationships and to come in for reviews and so forth. Um but you know, for me it's always really important that the person heading up the point is empowered to own that relationship. I so I would never want to get too too too close to the account because I think it's really important for success that somebody owns that account
Mentorship When Leadership Gets Lonely
SPEAKER_00that's not me.
SPEAKER_01And in terms of I guess your own development, you know, when you get to the the pointy end of of the triangle, you're near you know at the top or very near the top, where do you go for advice or guidance or mentorship?
SPEAKER_00Or is this Yeah, no, it's a good question. I mean, I think that that that's probably the hardest thing for me as you get more senior, is it can become a bit lonely. Um there's less people to talk to um about stuff. So yeah, I've been I've I've been lucky. I've had some great mentors over the years. Um my current CEO um is is is a great guide for me in my current role, but there's also a number of my peers. I mean, talent's very lucky in the fact that its senior management team have all got similar levels of experience to me, if not lots more. Uh so there's lots of people that I can bounce ideas off of. Um and then previously in my career, and again, I've I've had Danny initially in my career as I was building, and then when I went to expand, I called Ian Tyler was there. Um he was a great coach for me at that part of my career. So yeah, I've always had good people, and I think it's important to seek them out and also to listen to them and not think and not you know, I think part of being a great manager is realising you don't have all the answers and being open to listening to other people's point of view.